Saturday, January 3, 2009

Forester Diesel

Forester diesel headed to US in 2010

In early 2007 Subaru announced it is building a 2.2-liter flat-four turbodiesel engine, which will go on sale in Europe this year in Impreza and Forester models, but is not ready for the US. During the announcement of the engine at the 2007 Geneva Motor Show, Subaru indicated they had no plans to introduce the diesel to the US market.

Fuji Heavy Industries president Ikuo Mori says the U.S. is the most important market worldwide, and executive vice president of Subaru of America Tom Doll says “Forester owners enjoy long road trips”, begging the question of when the engine will be available in the US for the Forester and Impreza.

“We are preparing to launch the engine when the market is ready,” says Mori, “We have no comment on when that would be. The European market is ready now; I’m not sure when the US market will be.”

However, Mori says that regardless of the market condition, the engine will be introduced to the U.S. by midyear in 2010.

Mori says he thinks it will be very difficult for the U.S. to achieve the 15 percent diesel passenger car sales penetration by 2015, a figure that supplier Bosch as well as Mercedes-Benz and Audi have agreed with. Still, he added that Subaru will introduce the engine in the U.S. well before the US market reaches that level of diesel sales.



The New Subaru Forester Diesel

Available in three models, the Forester X, XC and XSN.


Step inside a Subaru Forester, and you’ll know. It was built with a commitment to On and Off-road vehicles, driven by the spirit of innovation. A focus on ingenuity that generates control and exhilaration. Design that appeals to the heart as well as the mind. All delivering an experience behind the wheel that is even more fulfilling than the destination.
This is not just another diesel evolution - this is a revolution. This is the world's first horizontally-opposed diesel engine to be featured in a passenger car. This is the SUBARU BOXER DIESEL. Mounted on the legendary Symmetrical AWD system, it benefits from the key characteristics of low-vibration and highly responsive acceleration. Boasting minimal inertia and friction with mountains of torque, this package changes all preconceptions you may have had of diesel engines. Its perfect balance and low centre of gravity will ensure you of an outstanding driving experience with unrivalled stability on every journey.

The boxer diesel is essentially an all-new engine, sharing its bore centers with Subaru's 3.0L gas six (to help reduce machining costs) but otherwise made mostly of unique parts. The twin-cam, four-cylinder mill displaces 2.0L, feeds off a common-rail fuel-delivery system, and breathes via 16 valves and a variable-nozzle turbo. Output is 145 hp at 3600 rpm but the engine makes a manly 258 lb-ft of torque at just 1800 rpm (compared with 226 lb-ft for the Forester's 2.0L turbo gas engine).

Subaru notes several advantages to the boxer's design. Most important, the horizontally opposed configuration is naturally balanced, requiring no weight- and friction-increasing counter-rotating shafts for smooth spinning. The engine is extremely compact, thanks to a bore pitch reduced 6mm over the 2.0L gas engine. An aluminum block minimizes weight, while a low-mounted turbocharger helps drop the car's center of gravity. The engine also wears a diesel particulate filter (DPF), a closed silicon-fiber honeycomb that traps particulate matter as it passes through the exhaust.

Mated to the new engine is a new six-speed manual transmission designed especially for the boxer diesel. Subaru currently has no automatic capable of handling the diesel's lofty torque output, and given the relatively low volumes anticipated for the diesel the company isn't inclined to spend big bucks on creating a new one. Expect the manual to be the one and only transmission offering when (if?) the Forester diesel eventually makes its stateside debut.

Official EPA fuel economy figures of course aren't yet available, but in Europe the Forester 2.0D is rated at an amazing 37 mpg city/highway combined. If you're a driver who likes to pour on the miles, here's your rig: With its 16.9-gallon fuel tank, the 2.0D has a range of more than 600 miles. Got a boat or a trailer? No problem. With the tank-like boxer-diesel, the Forester 2.0D can tow up to 4400 lb (compared with just 2400 lb for the gasoline-drinking, turbo 2.5L four in the Forester XT).

The engine lights off with a pushbutton starter and settles into a subdued clatter. You know right away it's a diesel, but the sound from beneath the hood isn't intrusive. Pull away from a stop and in a blink the turbo spools up and you're surging ahead. This isn't a quick car by any means: Subaru claims a 0-to-62-mph time of 10.4 seconds. Instead, think "stout." On an incline, the diesel powers up without fuss or undue shifting. On the autobahn, it hovered along at 90 mph with a refined thrum.
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94 comments:

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Anonymous said...

put that motor in a small truck, and i will buy one immediately....

Tom Pearce said...

I am praying that Subaru makes the Forester diesel with manual transmission available for the North American market soon! I am ready to buy one as soon as it is available. It is the perfect match for my needs - fuel economy, towing power and precise control.

Anonymous said...

I am dying to get my hands on one of these! Please, oh please Subaru, bring 'em over here quick!!! I will buy it today!
LynnD.

Lori & Panod said...

We need and want to buy one if the clunker bill is signed (two 10+ year old cars here)!! Please, please, please bring these here asap so that we can take advantage of this option! Otherwise, I will have to go knocking on the less dependable VW's door and I will deeply miss the AWD. :(

Dan said...

I have cash! I hope Subaru is listening???
I want a white one, leather seats, sunroof and 6 speed manual!

Anonymous said...

C'mon Subaru - bring the boxer diesel Forester to the USA, and as quickly as possible. The longer you wait, the more the American public will resign themselves to TDI's or wimpy hybrid/electric appliances. Yes, subtantial market penetration will be tough, but the sooner you get the boxer diesel to market, the better your chance of penetrating. If your sales and operating executives don't have the torque to do it, find some people who do. Thanks in advance (I hope) for finding your torque.

Anonymous said...

Argh! I really want one of these. I wish there was more data on when they'll be available and how to pre-order.

Anonymous said...

Please get them into the US. The market is ready and you will sell them

Anonymous said...

yes, how about the diesel in a small truck? There is a huge market for people who use a truck as a primary vehicle, but never tow anything, but haul furniture and similar small items. Why are all trucks gas hawgs?

Anonymous said...

Familiar with diesels for over 30 years...I am ready to buy a new technology diesel in car form now....STOP THE TEASE, SUBARU........comfort,power, economy, towing and utility is the car that is needed NOW in the US auto/SUV vehicle market. Take the lead and run with it..sjn

Anonymous said...

Bring on the 2.0D - AWD for poor midwest weather, towing capacity, great gas mileage - I'll take 2 right now!

Anonymous said...

with the new forester looking more like a mini-me tribeca I am more inclined to buy one... Now add the diesel and 4400lb tow cappacity and fuel milage out the wazoo!!! Sign me up.

Anonymous said...

Many of us are looking for an AWD vehicle that gets over 35 mpg--and the manufacturers are playing a game of self fulfilling prophesy in that if they dont sell diesels, they'll never find out that there is a BIG market in the US for diesels. If Audi-USA didn't keep VW from selling a diesel Tiguan here then VW wouldn't be able to make enough of them. Subaru is missing a tremendous market opportunity to be the first to maret and dominate the market for lack of competition (as well as a great vehicle!). Bring it on--I'm waiting (as others have said) money in hand.

Anonymous said...

Where can I buy a Forester diesel. I live in USA, CA.
Thanks,
Shaye

Anonymous said...

Put the diesel in the Impreza or Outback and I'll sign up. (Forester has grown too big for my tastes) I'm looking into TDI Jettas/Rabbits(next year?) but would prefer to stay with my trusty Subarus. Well Subaru? I've got no more than 12 months left in my Prism before a new car is in the garage - its going to be a diesel, will Subaru give me an option?

Anonymous said...

In 2005 diesels overtook gas-powered cars in sales in EU. What is arguably biggest shift in power-plant use, much bigger then the move to a fraud called hybrid, the whole story was muted in US. Some more expensive cars will be available in Diesel version in US, but "regular" (read mass-produced in a sense of say Corolla or Forester) nope. There are too many special interests to prevent that. I'd buy a small (non-turbo please) 6-speed 65MPG+ car in a heartbeat. But none is available and it never will be. Bigger cars are more profitable, hybrid, although being total fraud, is also more profitable then diesel. Sheeple in US have an access to a much more credit then sheeple in EU, if nothing else then through the use of their homes as ATM machines, so they can be suckered into the "larger and safer" vehicles. The move to vehicles which consume 40% less fuel would obliterate profits of oil cartel in US.
But.. we'll continue to be spoon-fed meaningless PR statements like this one about Diesel Forester... To Subaru's credit, others are doing it too. Yawn....
Watch for Subaru Hybrid to came sooner then TDiesel!
What is interesting is that PR statements of all car manufacturers look the same, same statements, same (in)actions same lies. Like they are controlled from the same source...

Anonymous said...

I have heard that Subaru will NOT be bringing the diesel to the US anytime soon. They do not believe that we will pay the extra $4000 over a gasoline version model.

Anonymous said...

I thought I was going to be first in line, but it looks like there's a lot of competition....

The Forester has swollen, and is now about the size of my wife's Highlander. I'm keen for the diesel, but in an Impreza or Outback. Also, the reviews from Edmunds are not encouraging - hard to shift, stunningly slow off the line and with poor road feel. This vehicle will probably need an aftermarket chip to bring in the turbo boost at much lower rev's. I'm staying in line for the vehicle, but it's ok by me if my Impreza lasts through 2011.

Anonymous said...

Is an american spec forester non-california compliant out there to import. I live three time zones away from california and do not want to pay for the parts I do not need. To exclude 3/4 of the worlds largest market is stupid!!!!! I guess they would rather have all of nothing.

Anonymous said...

I am ready to put down my money and buy one to replace my PZEV 08. I want better mileage, NOW!
Don't hold out on us any more Subaru! While you're at it, offer the diesel in both the Outback and Tribeca to expand my choices! I think a diesel is a much more sane solution than hybrid technology

Anonymous said...

My next vehicle will be diesel or natural gas powered, even if I have to buy a VW. I really like my Outback and hope to stay with Subaru. I don't think many people here in Wyoming are going to buy a prius because of all the snow, wind and long distances between towns. Subarus are much better suited. Subaru, Please bring us diesel!!

Hal Schnee said...

I, too, am dying to buy a diesel Forester. Please, Subaru, bring the diesels to the U.S.! A diesel Forester is my ideal vehicle, and I'm ready to buy!

Anonymous said...

Please, Please, Please bring the Forester diesel to US soon - you will sell them like no other Subuaru or AWD vehicle as the combination of AWD, torque, and fuel economy would be worth a few extra dollars!!

Anonymous said...

Would it be legal to buy one across the pond and have it shipped stateside?

Anonymous said...

I want a Diesel Forester to replace my Mitsubishi Outlander V6. But if Subaru is thinking $4000 above the gas engine, they can KEEP it. VW only charges about $1200 for the Diesel option.
Diesels are available in Europe in the Outlander,HondaCRV,ToyotaRAV,Forester and more.
I just think that we Americans are not educated enough when it comes to Diesels.
If you doubt this, question a few of your friends and neighbors and see some of the stupid responses you'll get.
Gunther
Portersville,PA

Anonymous said...

It's confusing. Diesels are flying out the showroom doors. Hybrids just sit there. I tried to buy a VW sportwagen till the stealership tried to gouge me 38% over MSRP.
I say SCREW CAL! Bring me the diesel you already have. I'm 2 time zones away and it's perfectly fine with our DOMV to register the vehicle. I've got cash. So why the tease?
Honda backed out, no 52mpg Accord stationwagen ( sport tourer ) for us. Ford wimped out, decided the 4.4 liter diesel in the range rovers was too good for the F150s. Dodge welsched on Cummins, so no 5.0 liter diesel for the Ram 1500. GM.... no balls. Just like a cows tail, swings whichever way the wind is blowing. Mahindra & Mahindra? Delays, delays, we'll see the four door 30 mpg midsize diesel pickup..... when? Sept? Dec? Never?
Come Fuji, step up. How about this. The Forester starts at 20 grand are runs up to around 30. So take the true difference ( not 4000 ) say 2500 as a deposit. In two months send over as many as you have deposits on. Simple. We can build them online and the cars will be sold before they ever get loaded on the container ship. I'll even pick mine up at the dock. Just land in Seattle instead of California. And before anybody screams about the 'poor' stealerships, The dealership law does NOT extend all the way to japan. There is no law against me buying a car in japan. They'll have my earnest money. I back out and it's thiers. If not I pay the balance when they deliver the car and hand me the title and the keys at the dock.

Anonymous said...

Although happy with my thirsty 08 Legacy, I would absolutely love to trade up to the new Outback diesel! Just make sure to offer it with an auto tranny! Thanks Subaru!

Anonymous said...

I'm in the market for a car now. I won't buy a 2009 Forester due to the 4-speed tranny. I would buy the diesel (at a premium price) with the 6-speed manual if it were available today.

Is this even a possibility, or a marketing tease? My current set of wheels won't last forever.

Anonymous said...

It's about time. I had an 86'Isuzu Trooper II Turbo Diesel with a 5-speed and 4WD (with low range). I averaged 32 mpg, 23 years ago! The engine was great.

I'd happily buy any diesel with AWD. Subaru, sign me up.

Anonymous said...

I had a '98 Outback that I traded in on an '05 Outback that I traded in on a used '04 VW TDI. Once someone has driven the torque of a diesel engine, most will never want another gas engine. The *lowest* MPG I have ever got on my VW has been 31 MPG, all city miles, in the summer with the AC on and driving like an idiot. I normally get 36 mpg or higher. It's really nice to only have to fill up every 600 miles.

VW has issues, but if you want diesel in a car, there you are... (I also have a Dodge CTD). I know when Subaru brings out their diesel, it will be better. I promised my Subaru dealer I would buy a diesel Subaru when they came out. I will keep that promise as soon as Subaru provides one.

Anonymous said...

Please add me to the number of Americans seeking to purchase the new Subaru Forester diesel w/6 spd transmission. My daughter and son-in-law want one as well. I like the milage and towing capacity, she needs the AWD and torque to hall clients into the N. GA mountains to show property. Come to think of it, my brother understands the benefits of diesels and will need a replacement for his Audi also. That's a total of three (3) more units! Come on y'all let's get the goods over here while the Cash For Clunkers program is still viable... PLEASE!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I am prepared to buy a diesel Forester, but do not care for the lack of communication and indifference exhibited by Subaru in informing us when and if it will be available. I was a satisfied Subaru customer until they started playing 'games'.

Anonymous said...

Look into the availability of a VW TDI! Good luck finding the one you want because in most cases they are sold before they are even delivered. It's hard to say that market penetration is tough for diesels when we don't have many resonable choices available.

Anonymous said...

Why wait till 2010? Bring it over already.

Diesel ready said...

So all this interest but no car? Anyone heard when it is coming and what are they waiting for? Maybe trying to sell off all the small 2009 Outbacks? patience. I can wait till Jan. 2010 but will I really be able to get one then?

Anonymous said...

How about offering a automatic transmission with your Turbo Diesel. If Volkswagon can do it why can't Subaru. Have had 3 Outbacks would prefer staying loyal to Subaru but automatics are a most.

Anonymous said...

I have three subarus currently. All have over 175,000 miles on them, including my beloved 1981 brat. We need to upgrade at least one of them pretty soon and are patiently waiting, waiting, WAITING for a diesel forester or outback to hit the market here.! Make either available and I will definitely buy one!

Anonymous said...

American market would not accept a manual only diesel Forester is a problem for Subaru having only a 6-speed manual.

Storz said...

I am a diehard Subaru fan, but am driving a Jetta TDI right now because Subie doesn't offer a diesel in the USA. I'll be first in line when the do!

Anonymous said...

Still waiting on the diesel Forester 6-spd...Come on Subie...don't delay, I'll buy two.

Anonymous said...

Take your time. After waiting for two years (for the U.S. market to be ready for diesel, whatever that means) I gave up and bought a gas powered AWD rig. Maybe in 10 years, when I'm ready to buy again, you'll have one available! No hurries.

Anonymous said...

add me to the list of individuals waiting for Subie diesel entry into the US. Just spoke to a Subie representative in NY and heard mid 2010 is a distinct possibility...
hope springs eternal

Anonymous said...

European D's are responsive and surprisingly quiet. We like quiet and we like responsive...Why not here, why not now.

Anonymous said...

While I find the attention to the supposed diesel appealing, it seems the more talk about it the less likely the probability. Lets's see, a 50mpg,lively,towing capable,AWD, dependable station wagon. Perfect vehicle for a retiree to drive off into the sunset, while tromping through a 6 speed tranny. Too good to be true? Let's see. DJP

Anonymous said...

patiently waiting? Heck no. Bring it NOW!!!!! Volkswagen has this field all to themselves. If they had AWD I'd already own one. Audi- BMW, forget you and your $50,000 screw mobiles. AWD Subi 50 mpg. I got cash, what's your probelm Fuji? You don't like money? What DO you want? Booze, Broads, WHAT???? What do we have to do to get a decent vehicle in the USA?????

Anonymous said...

I love reading you diesel fan's! Bring the diesel's to the states aready so we all can drive by gas stations and smile:) My truck runs on 70% veggie oil and run's 16 second 1/4 mile times it weights 9,126 pounds. I pull a 10,000 pound trailer and get 18mpg and low 20"s empty hwy, my wifes 07 subaru wagon gets 23 mpg We need diesel ASAP!!! And wait and see the aftermarket add on's

Anonymous said...

I'm ready to buy a diesel.....will buy the VW jetta TDI wagon..but will hold off and instead buy a Forrester diesel...c'mon subaru..get on the diesel wagon

Solid said...

I've had three Subarus. The 1990 Leg went 273,xxx miles with hardly a glitch. The others were not that far behind. So I have no doubt in their ability to produce a serious clean diesel. Come on Subie, if VW can plough through the line of endless money grabbers doing their best to keep new technology out, I'd believe you could do it as well. Imagine an AWD Boxer Diesel getting well into the mid to high 40 MPG...! Add to it the longevity, pulling ability...Then Go after the market share BMW has. A small super efficient sport type auto...look up the 1 series diesels...Amazing machine. Use this Boxer Diesel for everything its worth. Shoe horn it i(as an option) into every car you've got.

Anonymous said...

For us diehard SVX fans resurrect the SVX with the boxer diesel and 6 speed.

Anonymous said...

Don't let VW be the only Automaker that makes small diesels for cars in the U.S.! Bring it over here Subaru and I'll buy it! Impreza 2.0L Diesel would be sweet.

Anonymous said...

Add me to the list....Come FHI!

Anonymous said...

Good to see the thread is still alive; I had sort of given up on the whole idea. They would sell 1000 of these to wicked smaht Vermontahs in about a week. Hello? Is anyone listening? Is there anything more formal we can be doing besides blathering anonymously on this page? September 2010 would be just about perfect.

Anonymous said...

I don't know how much longer I can wait for this bad boy to arrive. I have been back to test drive the VW TDI now twice and am so tempted but I want the Subi AWD TDI. I will hold out until the spring and if its not here by then I will buy the VW TDI.

Anonymous said...

98% of the time, it's just me and maybe one passenger. So I want fuel economy all of time. But sometimes it's deer season, or I need a sheet of plywood, so I need to tow a small trailer and need a little torque -- can't get that with a hybrid -- they won't even put a trailer hitch on them. (Is a diesel hybrid different?) I want the smallest, most fuel-efficient machine to meet my day to day needs, but one that can occasionally haul some big or messy stuff in a trailer. Clearly, the best option is a car with a small diesel engine. The Outback wagon (or a Ford Focus) with a diesel engine would be perfect. The Forrester has gotten too big. I'm guessing that a whole lot of people would agree with me.

Anonymous said...

Want the subaru diesel now !!!!! would buy the VW, but they can't tow anything. Screw CA and bring the diesel to everybody else. PLEASE !!!

Anonymous said...

Make it a 2.8ltr diesel for the Tribeca and I'm, in all the way.. big subbie fan but they
are pricing themselves out of the game..

Anonymous said...

I have cash waiting for the 6-speed Diesel, Ikuo, how soon can you send me one?

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Have been waiting for the Forester Diesel, did not fall for Cash for Clunkers program...Will use my clunker until Subaru comes out with Diesel in USA

Anonymous said...

Get it here and strike while Americans want power along with mileage. I am another one who is waiting and will buy right away.

Anonymous said...

I have a 2003 2.5 xs its ready to be upgaded. I would buy the diesel without a test drive from specs alone.....make it happen! Toronto Canada

The LD Drummer said...

Does anyone have an update as to the ETA for the Forester Diesel?

johndherman@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

I agree with The LD Drummer, how about an update on the status of Subaru introducing the Forrester Diesel in 2010. This article at the top is dated January 2009.

Anonymous said...

Add me to the list of people impatiently waiting and googling. I have a 1999 Outback which I have patiently waited to replace now for three years with a diesel AWD wagon!!!!! Bring it on please! I will probably consider the Forester if that is the only option but OUtback please!!

Anonymous said...

I am not a Subaru customer, but I would definitely become one if they offered a 5 or 6 speed manual, AWD diesel! The American auto market is driving me nuts! I can't get a mid size manual diesel to save my life. Please, please, please, sell the Forester diesel models here in the US. I want to trade up, but I can't find any vehicle that I like.

Anonymous said...

I want one now now now now........

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they are able to meet the Tier 4 emission standards - that could be the big hold up. Will they be able to have a design that does not require urea injection? Also - what will be the maintenance on soot filters or other diesel specific items? In principle I really want one of these more so than anything else on the market, I absolutely love my current Forester and would like a larger version even more.

I have been holding out waiting for the past 2 years. I also wonder if they will do something stupid like void the warrenty if you tow with it. If they give me 3000lbs of towing capacity and the fuel savings can justify the cost difference and maintenance is not outrageous I'll be the first one with cash in fist. Both my cars are getting near their end of life - so I would be looking at two - but maybe not at one time. I wish FHI would at least give us an update. If they said - no we decided not to import it or it will be a few more years, I would buy a gaser Forester (but only 1). As it is now - I am in limbo with everyone else, just waiting and growing impatient with their silence.

Anonymous said...

Got a 2000 Outback (great car for NW NM). Add me to the list of the impatiently waiting for the Outback Diesel.

Anonymous said...

I hear mid 2010 for Diesel Boxer release date? Oh man, my 93 legacy wagon has 257,000 miles on it. My goal is 300K! This should(hopefully) be right as the Diesel is on the market! Yay Subaru!!!

hal said...

I think Subaru is missing a golden opportunity to capture a foothold in the diesel market. I've been looking hard at the Forester for about a year and I would love the diesel option.... and the manual transmission. Why can't you get the limited package with a manual? Some of us really like to drive a manual and you can't get with the gas turbo.

Anonymous said...

I too desire a diesel with a 6-speed manual transmission. I hope they offer these options in both the Outback and the Forester. If not introduced in 2010, I'll buy a Jetta Sportswagon TDI. My preference is for the Subie. It is clear from this thread that there is a large market for the Subaru diesel.

Anonymous said...

Info I got from Subaru when I emailed them about the diesel. I to am waiting.

Thank you for your interest in Subaru products. We have not yet definitively announced when diesel powered models would be available in the US.

Early last year, Fuji Heavy Industries (FHI), our parent company introduced the world's first turbo diesel boxer engine for sale in European markets in the Legacy and Outback model lines. We then introduced diesel powered Impreza and Forester models in Europe late last year. Mr. Mori, FHI Chairman, had indicated early last year that U.S. diesel models should be available States-side in the next few years.

Anonymous said...

Hello Subaru Team....we are ready to purchase a Diesel Forrester as soon as you make them available in the US. Stop teasing the public with European debuts etc. We (the US) is desperately in need of such a vehicle now!!!
Ossining NY

Anonymous said...

PLZ BRING SUBARU FORESTOR DEISEL BUT AUTOMATIC NOW WAITING TO BUY

Anonymous said...

I am still driving my 1999 Grand Caravan waiting for a manual, diesel Forester. I avoided trading in during the "clunker" offer hoping to buy the Forester that I want. The 1999 is having some minor mechanical issues so I really need Subaru to hurry with my diesel Forester!

Anonymous said...

I am still driving my 2000 Forester which has just over 100K. As soon as the diesel 6 speed Forester is available, I'm there with cash in hand. I just wish FHI would stop teasing us with their silence.

Anonymous said...

Bring it now! My two 93 legacy's combined have 560,000 miles on them and I am waiting on on eof these to replace them!

Anonymous said...

Like all the rest of you, I'd love to own a new Suby diesel. Currently have an Outback Sport because the mileage, but would prefer a Forster, Legacy or Outback with a 6 speed manual diesel!

Anonymous said...

I think the american car manufacturers influenced the powers that be,(lobbyists)so diesel car emmissions are very strict because they have nothing to throw at this market. And so not take away from their cheaply made poor mileage gas car sales figures. Regardless the consumer pays the price for not being able to buy what they really want.

Tim said...

If SUBARU does not come through with a diesel vehicle for the US in the next 10 months, I am switching my brand loyalty to Honda or Toyota or??? etc...
It's time you make available a real car here, Subaru. Listen to your true customers and get with it!

Chris Philips said...

Looks like Subaru could sell every one they sent over here- I'd buy one in a heartbeat. I suspect it's the SIERRA CLUB (and their ilk) that is keeping diesel out of the US- If we Americans discover a more efficient way to burn fossil fuels, their goal of removing them as an option suffers a major setback!

Anonymous said...

I,M FROM NJ AND I HAD 2004 STI , NOW I HAVE 2008 FORESTER SPORT 5 SPEED. SUBARU IS THE ONE FOR ME. I HAVE VOVLO V 70 WITH 210 000 MILES AND WILL HAVE TO RUN TILL SUBARU BRING HERE DIESEL. MY BROTHER JUST PURCHASED ONE IN EUROPE FORESTER DIESEL AND HE SAD THAT NEVER HEARD DIESEL ENGINE BE SO QUIET. ....I WILL BE WAITING FOR ONE ..PLEASE

Anonymous said...

Bring it ASAP. We (Yanks) are not (all)as foolish as you (NIPS) think. Even a 5% slice of our pie is one hell of a lot of pastry

Anonymous said...

F-U subaru! I'm buying a Chevy!

Anonymous said...

I'm hoping your engineers can solve the California emissions test-- if not I think you could still sell oodles of boxer diesels in Foresters or as replacement engine for the millions of Jeeps in the rest of the USA! I have Jeep Liberty diesel and only get 22 to 25 mpg when engine is working. I'm ready to buy Subaru diesel as soon as possible. Al from Wisconsin

Anonymous said...

Subaru, if you will ship one to Dallas I will buy it.

Anonymous said...

I too am waiting for a Forester Diesel. C'mon Subaru I do not want to buy another Audi if I do not have to

Anonymous said...

"If you import them, they will sell"

J. T. Chapman said...

3 big dogs + 2 people + agility trials + 300 mile drives to said trials + 75 mph speed limit in Montana + snow, ice, mountain passes = SERIOUS NEED for a Subaru Forester AWD Diesel. Please, please, please get them here NOW!!!!

Hagerott said...

Would be great to have the diesel model soon than later.

tim said...

Hurry, Oil is running out!

Anonymous said...

I dont understand. Who is really "controlling" the USA market? If you guys manufacture a car, why cant I put my money down and order it. I used to build airplanes and we sold them all over the world. Where can I place my order, Subaru? Is someone trying to protect us from getting too many miles per gallon?

Anonymous said...

I have read somewhere that Subaru is making a CVT transmition for those that are unable to drive a manual. With the torq of the diesel, a CVT might be a good option.

Anonymous said...

I am looking for a diesil Forester now! I don't know if i can wait more than one year. Please announce or establish a preorder option and I'll jump on it!

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